[GAP] RE: JEWL

[Martin Mansfield]

I find myself in agreement with Robert and Tony. I believe that students
should enjoy the work but that is not the first goal. To me, the fun part is
conquering a challenge. Whether it involves graphics is not relevant.

-- 
Martin F. Mansfield


> From: Anthony S Ruocco <aruocco at rwu.edu>
> Reply-To: GNAT Academic Program discussion list <gap at gnat.info>
> Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 11:19:26 -0400
> To: <gap at gnat.info>
> Subject: RE: [GAP] RE: JEWL
> 
> I have to agree with Robert.  There is a definite emphasis on 'fun' lately.  I
> got the feeling at the last SIGCSE that there is a competition over whose
> first-year coding scheme provided the most fun for the students.  As an
> instructor in a small faculty, trying to keep up with all the fun-things is
> worse than trying to keep up with a good lesson.
> 
> Tony Ruocco 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Dewar [mailto:dewar at adacore.com]
> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 7:53 PM
> To: GNAT Academic Program discussion list
> Subject: Re: [GAP] RE: JEWL
> 
> Riehle, Richard USA wrote:
>> In an earlier message, as part of a discussion regarding
>> approaches to teaching Ada, I mentioned that I find that
>> my students enjoy writing Windows programs using JEWL.
>> 
>> Was that comment so outrageous that no one felt it was
>> worth comment?   Does no one else consider the concept
>> of "fun" important when teaching and learning a programming
>> language?
> 
> It's important, but I think you have to avoid the phenomenon
> of people fiddling with graphics libraries etc instead of
> learning how to program. I notice that Java courses tend to
> be particularly prone to this disease.
> 
> There are many ways students can have fun, but let's not
> forget that the primary purpose of courses is learning!
> 
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